Besides most of the people that i know from school are switching to the ps3 because paying for live is such a hassle. I'm just saying if you have a 360 for 3 or 4 years that adds up to 150 or 200$. That is like 3 brand new games. o and wait if you you pay 300$ for the console that is around 500$ you're spending in total. 300$ or 500$ you can choose