....god?

[__STRELOK__]

@snaken
yes, valid point the part about the big bang. but that is only one thing that athiests cant YET explain, but there are tons of other's that can disprove god, like i said above, why hasnt "god" stoped tragic event? maybe its because he doesnt like you or w/e, that just sounds strange, many of you follow a killer? no no, a serial killer? that doesnt sound right....does it? and to counter your question about big bang, were did god come from? according to you(im assuming), something doesnt come from nothing.(nothing personal, and hey, welcome to the site!)

btw, im VERY impressed by diversity of people who are posting here. well done, keep it up

he dosent control those tragic events, they happen because of the choices people make, he only influences them.

[snaken]

lol scruffy so manyy people have said that to me!!
oh and before everything
this is just life
this is not heaven
life--bad stuff happens
heaven is nice

just an anology to make you thing, you cant be happy in heaven if the world life was perfect now can you :P

Ok well if you did your own research and read a little in the Quran, God said that hes gonna test you, okay lets say you didnt beleive in god but u prayed 5 times a day to show ur friends thaT U pray (muslims have 2 pray 5 times a day) now your mom dies "does god hate me why does this happen?" but... you never beleived in goD?
anyway your mom died.. becuase she made you pray when she was alive so what happens now?
you stop praying
god gave you the test of your mom dieing and you failed it (EXAMPLE OUT OF MY MIND NOT REAL FACT :X)
stuff in blue i made up so dont take my word for it

okay you think about that do a little of your own research, read a little Quran and see how it effects you

oh and i forgot
christains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkJk-dMDEqE
bible has been changed a lot of times
this is only one mistake
theres...many like it says the earth is flat etc but do your own research dont tell me shut the hell up i just wanna open your eyes and i truly beleive you shouldnt become a christain jsut because you were born christain but think about it and do your own research I hate when people want everything givin to them so at least show you care a little bit and read a little bit

ok sorry im typing so much damnit

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Oh and scruffy
God is timeless
this is something you cant understand right off the bat, takes deep thinking, and careful research
but if God was always there... then God didnt come from anywhere right?
then youd say "the universe was always there..."
science proved that wasnt the case
you know that one guy on the wheel chair steven hawking?
he was a very smart scientist
if you read through his documents and discoveries, it points out that at 1 point there was nothing and a third of a second after there was the ball 4 the bang
but again read into it! you know your avatar of google
use it!

Oh and God has giving you free will
people abuse it
xD
about what str said

[Scruffy120]

cleaned up that mess with the double post. now to buisness.
the god your describing, seems a bit "unfair" when i used to attend church, hes seem very fair, but again its 2 diffrent religions. either way, i still feel i am correct? about something coming from nothing. you still werent able to say were god has come from, just push out more facts. i accept i dont know how the big bang took place, but it did, and there is proof of that. there is no proof of god. prove me wrong.

[snaken]

lol the proof that there is a God is all around you!!
okay heres one for you
as the discovery channel said
the eartch was molten lava at one point
then how in the world did a plant come
how did grass come
how did trees come
from where the heck did humans come from
where did a lion come from
it was molten lava
did we drop from a meteor?!? >
lol think about that

okay and yeah
think about this one
we are humans
our definition of end is like borders
for example this is u ">" you are traveling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>| oh noes you hit the end of the road!!!
okay now think of the universe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>| wtf is here??!?!?!?!?
they say the univers is expanding so at first its >>>| then >>>>>| then >>>>>>>| etc etc
so.... whats on the other side, you cant explain it! you dont have the capability
which leads me to my other point

as we know in chemistry class, we are in a 3d place
we only understand 3 dimensions
and we know that electrons from our dimension are travel through the 4.5.6.7. ones
and we know there are 7 dimentions in total
but we only comprehend 3!
God knows what the other 4 are, maybe the 5th dimention in not up and down nor side to side or diagnol but like... i cant explain it cuz idk!! lol u get the point i hope of the dimention thing if u dont ill try to clarify but i cant even think straight when i think of that stuff
now.. lets just say idk this but lets say God is in...hm... the 7th dimention?
over there theres no time lets say for example its made up but im just using it for example reasons
hes there...no age......and no wayyyyy do i know what goes on there
but im just making you think here
((again research it ull find so muchh!))

oh and scruffy thanks for not being so ignorant like "NOPE THERE ISNT GOD POSTS DELETED!" i like it when people are open to hear what others got to say



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Oh and heres something else
if you beleive in science
where did energy come from >.>?
energy doesnt ever die?
it never gets erased?
think about it

[Scruffy120]

ok, heres were i get to have fun
earth at once was molten lava, and developed an atmosphere to hold in all the contents of the earth, so at 1st we only have heat, as we know, lava eventually cools, and when that happens it makes condensation(as the space is freezing cold) we know have clouds correct? logical enough? now it rains, ok that speeds up the drying process, and eventually we create lakes, oceans.....etc, and the suns been there, so know you have the perfect spot for algey to form, eventually we have mutations forming, and we get fish, plants living on the earth,(by now after the erosion and weathering, its not solid rock, its dirt/soil) this is when trees start to form, then we got the fish, mutating and evolving, filling niches. eventaully after dinosaurs, cavemen, we evolve further into the people we are today.
as for the energy statement, if you testing space, the universe, there is what we call "background radiation" and thats from the initial explosion of the big bang, so we have proof the big bang did happen. but im not 100% sure what form of energy were talking about. but i think i hit the correct one.

and no problem, im not going to delete post's because someone can put up a good fight

[snaken]

lol wroung energy if you took science we know the earth has a specific energy
energy is giving off by heat and stuff but is never lost if u remember thats the energy im talkin about

and this is where i get fun
but before where did u get the mutations from?? i never heard of mutations happening to water
where does algey form from??
where did it come from?
ok perfect spot just where did it come from
and okay look what you just told me
isnt that proof enough theres a God?
you just prooved his existance lol

[Scruffy120]

lol wroung energy if you took science we know the earth has a specific energy
energy is giving off by heat and stuff but is never lost if u remember thats the energy im talkin about

and this is where i get fun
but before where did u get the mutations from?? i never heard of mutations happening to water
where does algey form from??
where did it come from?
ok perfect spot just where did it come from
and okay look what you just told me
isnt that proof enough theres a God?
you just prooved his existance lol

uhhm? lol?
when you have sun and water, you get algey, some amino acid shit, and mutations prob wasnt a good word on my part xD like...evolution, something happens to the creature for the better, and it proceeds to happen.

[__STRELOK__]

i was reading soem of your stuff and remembered that water is alive, theres studies proving that it has memories and reacts diffrently to diffrent moods, (i know its off topic)

[snaken]

no water is not alive.. water is the combination of hydrogen (not living) and oxygen (not living)

[snaken]

people like you give us a bad name, its not to jokeabout cuz muslims are not most definetly not them, they are the complete oppisite and beleive in peace