i do agree, we all should be doing a bit more......and sonnie, i think you can go against him too, he owns the site, but i never see him here, admit it ALL of the staff has done some wrong. i say well go into staff chat, were none the other users can see, and we decide on something, wtf were going to do, until were all OK with each other, pull our own weight around here, because to be honet, the sites dying, slowly, very slowly......