well, what are your opinions on god, why/why not? (please be serius, or dont post and GTFO[phython and co])
personally im atheist, i believe in science.
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well, what are your opinions on god, why/why not? (please be serius, or dont post and GTFO[phython and co])
personally im atheist, i believe in science.
Well i believe in god mainly because im cristian
so what that your Christin that doesnt me your bound to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by _xXxColaxXx_
yea ino but ibelieve in god idont go to church but or nana/grandma is like the biigiest cristian out there its crazy so for me ijust believe in him
I wasn't raised religious, and then i drifted even farther away so i'm pretty firmly in the atheist category now.
i remember going to church....was funny, id go for the refreshments afterwords, not 100% dedication lmao....lulz and so WMD thats why u werent mad at me and gabe last night =P
tact, think about hell, its even more crowded,
and i was raised in a religiuos family but havent really chosen what path im taking, im leaning more to a belief of that he exists, and cola, just cause you believe there is a god, dosent make you a christain, or even just goin to church for that matter, i know allot about the bible and religion, and i dont call myself a christain.
I'm Agnostic.
agree'd ive made most of the stuff to qualify as a christian, i still dont follow it, or agree with it even 1%Quote:
Originally Posted by __STRELOK__
whats up with the last partQuote:
Originally Posted by Scruffy120
and yea i wasnt raised in a crazy ass religious home but im christian
I'm sure there's a god, maybe that's not his name, but he is a greater being that created us. I don't belong to a specific religion, but I'm definitely not athiest, I have athiest friends but I personally dislike the practice of "science proves everything" because there are many instances where science is wrong. For instance: Bees technically shouldn't be able to fly, their wing mass is so much less than their body mass that they should fall like a rock, and its an unexplained mystery. Many things are, and religion somewhat falls into the category.
im atheist (scientology) i hate the fact of god, no offensce. it really just irritates me that if someone created this whole entire universe why hasnt he shown himself yet? if god was real he would stop this from being posted... but hey thats my opinion and i respect yours
you sure dont act like one,Quote:
Originally Posted by Phython74
just cause you belive there is a god dosent make you christain,
and yea scruffy i tend to follow it more than i dont, like i will always be on the side of there being a god againt the big bang theory
i thought that was because they flapperd their wings like super fastQuote:
Originally Posted by xWhite_Shadowx
No, they still have no true proof yet. They believe they couldn't because of how our planes fly, and that they have to study their style of flap, and pattern of flapping wings to discover why they do, but as of now, they are not lighter than air and their wings shouldn't let them fly.
"god" in any religion, no, most religions, is a"Faith" a "spirit" not a physical being, even if god was a physical being, dont you think they made some fuck ups? i wouldnt show my face either. but non-athiests dont aggravate me lol, i belive god doesnt exist, thats ones own choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syphongamer08
@everyone else:
IF there is a god, how come he didnt stop terrible events around the world, the holocaust for example(only using because it is religious and known world wide), how come god didnt stop that? or any form of genocide, or "ethnic cleansing" as the UK is calling it now...im sure there are more to list, im just too tired atm. lol
i believe theres a higher power.
not really sure if its god or not.
But consider this, just because hes a higher power, doesnt mean he likes everyone.
yeah sure they say god loves all of his children. I think that there is a god. Theres a higher power. he just doesnt like everyone. he doesnt love everyone and thats why bad shit happens. good things happen to bad people, bad things happen to good people. For those who have it bad, maybe stop and think that god just doesnt like you.
you're a scientologist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Syphongamer08
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...D54/v-mask.jpg
lmao
There's a God and there's a Devil. Some people turn to God, some turn to the Devil.
People that do bad things in life are controlled by the Devil. The Devil enters people when they don't worship God. Then evil comes out of them.
God can't stop bad things from happening, neither can the Devil stop good things from happening. The Devil betrayed God and that's where hell began.
That's part of what we believe in my religion.
Maybe God is a Bee? o_O
Lol jk.
i dont worship god, i dont belive in god, i dont worship the devil, nor do i belive in it, i wouldnt consider my self "evil". so were does that let your religion stand?Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT_PiTBULL
It means you don't believe in the religion that he does...der.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scruffy120
Just because you don't believe in his religion, or any part of it...doesn't mean you don't have a part in it somewhere (through his eyes).
well, the devil and god can try to prevent it from happening but, they dont control us with it, they just influence us on what to do,Quote:
Originally Posted by SGT_PiTBULL
true, my values of right and wrong, could be diffrent, never gave that a thought xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Pain_ELementaL
True, they influence us, not control us.
I wasn't trying to say you're evil or have the devil inside of you if you don't believe in God.
I said people that commit crimes and do other bad things are influenced by the devil because they didn't turn towards God.
In my religion, we believe worshipping God protects us from the devil.
just curious but, what religion do you follow o_OQuote:
Originally Posted by SGT_PiTBULL
i think hes told me that hes muslim, but my family is baptists.
interesting, i do like the whole meditation idea, if that is muslim =\Quote:
Originally Posted by __STRELOK__
heY guys im new so idk if you know me but w.e.
i was just reading through this :)
anyway i have a high oppinion on this but before that
whiteshadow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skQqS...eature=related
i know that this doesnt pertain to mass/wings or w.e. but it just shows the little of the many things said about bees in the Quran
which leads you to know, Yes im a Muslim
okay now, the Quran was sent down about 1400 years ago...saying stuff etc etc
today we are now discovering what the Quran said 1400 years ago, thats..wow in my oppinion
Quran speeks about embriology before microscopes
but still that isnt all, thats only a little of the book
In my oppinion, Yes there is a God, Yes he's watching, and Yes theres a devil, and Yes hes influencing you
Okay.. for those athiests i just want one question for you How was this whole universe created?
big bang?
ok
then what put the ball there to create the big bang?
but im getting off topic, let me continue
Yes science is the answer for some stuff but science has just been proving the Quran right for the past 1400 years!
And for the one who said "why hasnt God shown himself yet?"
I want you to think of this
Lifes a test
God has giving you signs (i.e. look at the trees, the sky, you cant jsut ask for your personal sign because signs are all around you)
God sent you his message through his profets (Moses, Jesus, Mohammad and more may God bless them)
so... wheres the reason not to beleive in God?
I dont think these is one
ok i know i went overboard but i barely said anything to whats acctually out there
do your own research dont expect everything to come to you
read the Quran see what it has to offer
ok thats all i have to say atm:) oh and nice to meet you all
@snaken
yes, valid point the part about the big bang. but that is only one thing that athiests cant YET explain, but there are tons of other's that can disprove god, like i said above, why hasnt "god" stoped tragic event? maybe its because he doesnt like you or w/e, that just sounds strange, many of you follow a killer? no no, a serial killer? that doesnt sound right....does it? and to counter your question about big bang, were did god come from? according to you(im assuming), something doesnt come from nothing.(nothing personal, and hey, welcome to the site!)
btw, im VERY impressed by diversity of people who are posting here. well done, keep it up ;D
he dosent control those tragic events, they happen because of the choices people make, he only influences them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scruffy120
lol scruffy so manyy people have said that to me!!
oh and before everything
this is just life
this is not heaven
life--bad stuff happens
heaven is nice
:)
just an anology to make you thing, you cant be happy in heaven if the world life was perfect now can you :P
Ok well if you did your own research and read a little in the Quran, God said that hes gonna test you, okay lets say you didnt beleive in god but u prayed 5 times a day to show ur friends thaT U pray (muslims have 2 pray 5 times a day) now your mom dies "does god hate me why does this happen?" but... you never beleived in goD?
anyway your mom died.. becuase she made you pray when she was alive so what happens now?
you stop praying
god gave you the test of your mom dieing and you failed it (EXAMPLE OUT OF MY MIND NOT REAL FACT :X)
stuff in blue i made up so dont take my word for it
okay you think about that do a little of your own research, read a little Quran and see how it effects you
oh and i forgot
christains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkJk-dMDEqE
bible has been changed a lot of times
this is only one mistake
theres...many like it says the earth is flat etc but do your own research dont tell me shut the hell up i just wanna open your eyes and i truly beleive you shouldnt become a christain jsut because you were born christain but think about it and do your own research I hate when people want everything givin to them so at least show you care a little bit and read a little bit :)
ok sorry im typing so much damnit
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Oh and scruffy
God is timeless
this is something you cant understand right off the bat, takes deep thinking, and careful research
but if God was always there... then God didnt come from anywhere right?
then youd say "the universe was always there..."
science proved that wasnt the case
you know that one guy on the wheel chair steven hawking?
he was a very smart scientist :)
if you read through his documents and discoveries, it points out that at 1 point there was nothing and a third of a second after there was the ball 4 the bang
but again read into it! you know your avatar of google
use it! :D
Oh and God has giving you free will
people abuse it
xD
about what str said
cleaned up that mess with the double post. now to buisness.
the god your describing, seems a bit "unfair" when i used to attend church, hes seem very fair, but again its 2 diffrent religions. either way, i still feel i am correct? about something coming from nothing. you still werent able to say were god has come from, just push out more facts. i accept i dont know how the big bang took place, but it did, and there is proof of that. there is no proof of god. prove me wrong.
lol the proof that there is a God is all around you!!
okay heres one for you
as the discovery channel said
the eartch was molten lava at one point
then how in the world did a plant come
how did grass come
how did trees come
from where the heck did humans come from
where did a lion come from
it was molten lava
did we drop from a meteor?!? >:o
lol think about that
okay and yeah
think about this one :)
we are humans
our definition of end is like borders
for example this is u ">" you are traveling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>| oh noes you hit the end of the road!!!
okay now think of the universe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>| wtf is here??!?!?!?!?
they say the univers is expanding so at first its >>>| then >>>>>| then >>>>>>>| etc etc
so.... whats on the other side, you cant explain it! you dont have the capability
which leads me to my other point
as we know in chemistry class, we are in a 3d place
we only understand 3 dimensions
and we know that electrons from our dimension are travel through the 4.5.6.7. ones
and we know there are 7 dimentions in total
but we only comprehend 3!
God knows what the other 4 are, maybe the 5th dimention in not up and down nor side to side or diagnol but like... i cant explain it cuz idk!! lol u get the point i hope of the dimention thing if u dont ill try to clarify but i cant even think straight when i think of that stuff
now.. lets just say idk this but lets say God is in...hm... the 7th dimention?
over there theres no time lets say for example its made up but im just using it for example reasons
hes there...no age......and no wayyyyy do i know what goes on there
but im just making you think here
((again research it ull find so muchh!))
oh and scruffy thanks for not being so ignorant like "NOPE THERE ISNT GOD POSTS DELETED!" i like it when people are open to hear what others got to say :)
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Oh and heres something else
if you beleive in science
where did energy come from >.>?
energy doesnt ever die?
it never gets erased?
think about it :)
ok, heres were i get to have fun ;D
earth at once was molten lava, and developed an atmosphere to hold in all the contents of the earth, so at 1st we only have heat, as we know, lava eventually cools, and when that happens it makes condensation(as the space is freezing cold) we know have clouds correct? logical enough? now it rains, ok that speeds up the drying process, and eventually we create lakes, oceans.....etc, and the suns been there, so know you have the perfect spot for algey to form, eventually we have mutations forming, and we get fish, plants living on the earth,(by now after the erosion and weathering, its not solid rock, its dirt/soil) this is when trees start to form, then we got the fish, mutating and evolving, filling niches. eventaully after dinosaurs, cavemen, we evolve further into the people we are today.
as for the energy statement, if you testing space, the universe, there is what we call "background radiation" and thats from the initial explosion of the big bang, so we have proof the big bang did happen. but im not 100% sure what form of energy were talking about. but i think i hit the correct one.
and no problem, im not going to delete post's because someone can put up a good fight;D
lol wroung energy :) if you took science we know the earth has a specific energy
energy is giving off by heat and stuff but is never lost if u remember thats the energy im talkin about
and this is where i get fun :)
but before where did u get the mutations from??:) i never heard of mutations happening to water :o
where does algey form from??
where did it come from?
ok perfect spot just where did it come from
and okay look what you just told me
isnt that proof enough theres a God?
you just prooved his existance lol
i was reading soem of your stuff and remembered that water is alive, theres studies proving that it has memories and reacts diffrently to diffrent moods, (i know its off topic)
no water is not alive.. water is the combination of hydrogen (not living) and oxygen (not living)
I'm a terrorist. Lol, jk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scruffy120
I'm muslim.
:)
people like you give us a bad name, its not to jokeabout cuz muslims are not most definetly not them, they are the complete oppisite and beleive in peace
uhhm? lol?Quote:
Originally Posted by snaken
when you have sun and water, you get algey, some amino acid shit, and mutations prob wasnt a good word on my part xD like...evolution, something happens to the creature for the better, and it proceeds to happen.