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_PRaLiNeS_
05-11-2010, 11:19 PM
Is not having a religion atheism? because atheism is the belief that there are no gods. but what if you just don't believe anything, like you have the absence of religion? if you know what im saying. help me out. im in a moral dilemma. its been keeping me up for days. ive been pulling out my hair and fingernails, my eyes are bloodshot. my body is shaking constantly and i feel surrounded in a haze. im contemplating whether or not i should just go over in the corner and stand there so the shadows running around my room will not attack me. help me now please help i beg you if there is a god ineed you morethananything right now the room it spins its filled with things they dance around committing sins sins sins so sinister so very horrendous i feel the need to run away away no but i cant run they have me trapped in this corner they tease me they hide and when im about to run they appear with more of their friends than before please help now


what the fuck. ok but seriously. the question was a serious question. it has me bewildered.

xWhite_Shadowx
05-11-2010, 11:36 PM
Is not having a religion atheism? because atheism is the belief that there are no gods. but what if you just don't believe anything, like you have the absence of religion? if you know what im saying. help me out. im in a moral dilemma. its been keeping me up for days. ive been pulling out my hair and fingernails, my eyes are bloodshot. my body is shaking constantly and i feel surrounded in a haze. im contemplating whether or not i should just go over in the corner and stand there so the shadows running around my room will not attack me. help me now please help i beg you if there is a god ineed you morethananything right now the room it spins its filled with things they dance around committing sins sins sins so sinister so very horrendous i feel the need to run away away no but i cant run they have me trapped in this corner they tease me they hide and when im about to run they appear with more of their friends than before please help now


what the fuck. ok but seriously. the question was a serious question. it has me bewildered.

Hahaha xD

Atheism is the belief that there is no god, or no "superior" being.
Not having a religion specifically would be more Agnosticism(In my opinion...). I'm Agnostic, I'm uncertain of a specific belief being right or proper, so I choose not to have a religion.

Syphongamer08
05-11-2010, 11:47 PM
Dude, religion is bullshit. Religion is just a set of stupid fucking morels some power hungry fuck made up. God is not real. ANY GOD (in my opinion). Religions are authoritarian hierarchy designed to cloud our free will. It's all a big fucking load of horse shit. I share the same feelings about religion as you. I don't have one at all. I'm not open to it. They're pointless. What good does it give you? As far as atheism... Thats just a way for Christians and Catholics to undermind people who don't believe in their pointless icon of a savior.

BLack_OpsKiLLa
05-11-2010, 11:50 PM
Dude, religion is bullshit. Religion is just a set of stupid fucking morels some power hungry fuck made up. God is not real. ANY GOD (in my opinion). Religions are authoritarian hierarchy designed to cloud our free will. It's all a big fucking load of horse shit. I share the same feelings about religion as you. I don't have one at all. I'm not open to it. They're pointless. What good does it give you? As far as atheism... Thats just a way for Christians and Catholics to undermind people who don't believe in their pointless icon of a savior.

Your ignorance is showing...

Syphongamer08
05-11-2010, 11:52 PM
Your ignorance is showing...

That really offends me. Explain your reasoning, show me proof that any god is worth anyone's time and I'll shut up right now.

BLack_OpsKiLLa
05-11-2010, 11:56 PM
I'm not saying that you should believe in a religion.But when you say religion is bullshit that is being ignorant.

Syphongamer08
05-12-2010, 12:00 AM
I'm not saying that you should believe in a religion.But when you say religion is bullshit that is being ignorant.

I didn't say that you have to either. But religion...Is bullshit. What is the point??? You get some self satisfaction out of it for a good 75 years and you die. And THEN...nothing happens. No religion and no god will do anything for us. EVER. It's all made up.

_PRaLiNeS_
05-12-2010, 12:34 AM
well thats what im saying. i think that you should develop your own beliefs on how you want to live your life. the fact that beliefs are categorized is stupid to me. people who identify with one religion believe in all of that religion's core values. its like being a democrat or republican. most people who identify themselves as democrats will vote the same way on the same issues as other democrats. what does abortion have to do with health care or gay marriage? people should just choose what you believe, and not conform with the guidelines of that group you are in. and fuck the stories, why do you need stories in religion? it should be all about the morals and values. nahmean?

dude, take the blunt.

xWhite_Shadowx
05-12-2010, 01:09 AM
Religion being bullshit? Not completely... its just what you believe. Personally, I don't think a certain religion has it spot on. So I prescribe to my own beliefs, I believe in a higher being but I'm skeptical, that's why I guess you could say I'm "Agnostic". But in all honesty, most religions just waste time and make life more stressful... Success is much more easily obtained with less obstacles, and to put it bluntly, "religion" just gets in the way. But I'm also not saying religion is bad, if you're Christian, or Catholic, or whatever, I don't have anything wrong with it because it's YOUR belief not mine.

Phython74
05-12-2010, 01:12 AM
Dude, religion is bullshit. Religion is just a set of stupid fucking morels some power hungry fuck made up. God is not real. ANY GOD (in my opinion). Religions are authoritarian hierarchy designed to cloud our free will. It's all a big fucking load of horse shit. I share the same feelings about religion as you. I don't have one at all. I'm not open to it. They're pointless. What good does it give you? As far as atheism... Thats just a way for Christians and Catholics to undermind people who don't believe in their pointless icon of a savior.

Don't you believe in spirits in animals and shit? I'm pretty sure thats called animism.

Syphongamer08
05-12-2010, 01:24 AM
Religion being bullshit? Not completely... its just what you believe. Personally, I don't think a certain religion has it spot on. So I prescribe to my own beliefs, I believe in a higher being but I'm skeptical, that's why I guess you could say I'm "Agnostic". But in all honesty, most religions just waste time and make life more stressful... Success is much more easily obtained with less obstacles, and to put it bluntly, "religion" just gets in the way. But I'm also not saying religion is bad, if you're Christian, or Catholic, or whatever, I don't have anything wrong with it because it's YOUR belief not mine.

Very well said...


Don't you believe in spirits in animals and shit? I'm pretty sure thats called animism.

Silly boy stfu :)

nx.dcr
05-12-2010, 03:02 AM
didnt take the time to read all of your posts, but ill come back and double post later.

@syphongamers first post.
i think you should look up the definition and origins of the word "morals" before you describe them as whole, rather than pertaining only to religion, to be "stupid," which even so, is somewhat uneducated. :p

alucard7616
05-12-2010, 07:22 AM
its been keeping me up for days. ive been pulling out my hair and fingernails, my eyes are bloodshot. my body is shaking constantly and i feel surrounded in a haze.

Have you been taking drugs ? lol

WhoIsYou
05-12-2010, 08:08 AM
Is not having a religion atheism? because atheism is the belief that there are no gods. but what if you just don't believe anything, like you have the absence of religion? if you know what im saying. help me out. im in a moral dilemma. its been keeping me up for days. ive been pulling out my hair and fingernails, my eyes are bloodshot. my body is shaking constantly and i feel surrounded in a haze. im contemplating whether or not i should just go over in the corner and stand there so the shadows running around my room will not attack me. help me now please help i beg you if there is a god ineed you morethananything right now the room it spins its filled with things they dance around committing sins sins sins so sinister so very horrendous i feel the need to run away away no but i cant run they have me trapped in this corner they tease me they hide and when im about to run they appear with more of their friends than before please help now


what the fuck. ok but seriously. the question was a serious question. it has me bewildered.

I've had the same argument countless times, saying "nah I'm not an atheist because that's still a belief" or whatever, and so have a lot of other people (including yourself apparently).
Anyway, after looking into it further, I've come to the realization that we're all wrong, and that we are in fact, atheists. (Though I hate to say it, because I don't think everything should have to be labeled in such a way)

A belief that something doesn't exist is also just a disbelief, and the two definitions of the word support that:

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

So, while the first definition makes it sort of a "belief" like a religion, the second shows that the word is also used for someone who simply does not believe in god (or supreme being).

Of course, that first definition being there still makes shit annoying as fuck, and could allow you to continue arguing that you're not an atheist and that you just don't believe in god, but there's really no point to it.




Not having a religion specifically would be more Agnosticism(In my opinion...). I'm Agnostic, I'm uncertain of a specific belief being right or proper, so I choose not to have a religion.
Not having a religion wouldn't make you agnostic (though someone who's agnostic doesn't necessarily follow a specific religion).
Agnostic would be more along the lines of being uncertain whether there is a "higher power" (see: god) or not. Basically thinking that there may possibly be one, but aren't sure as there's no real proof.

In other words, you're a pussy and don't want to say there is no god because you're afraid you'll go to "hell" if there is one. :D (<<< That's a joke -_-).

Syphongamer08
05-12-2010, 10:11 AM
didnt take the time to read all of your posts, but ill come back and double post later.

@syphongamers first post.
i think you should look up the definition and origins of the word "morals" before you describe them as whole, rather than pertaining only to religion, to be "stupid," which even so, is somewhat uneducated. :p

Sorry buddy... Don't mean to offend you or anything, but religion is stupid and pointless. It doesn't benefit us in anyway. People may think it does. But in the end it doesn't. The worshiping of a god or a higher being is fucking ridiculous.

Phython74
05-12-2010, 05:14 PM
Sorry buddy... Don't mean to offend you or anything, but religion is stupid and pointless. It doesn't benefit us in anyway. People may think it does. But in the end it doesn't. The worshiping of a god or a higher being is fucking ridiculous.

Yes you are entitled to your own opinion but you shouldn't bash someone for having a faith.

xWhite_Shadowx
05-12-2010, 05:38 PM
Not having a religion wouldn't make you agnostic (though someone who's agnostic doesn't necessarily follow a specific religion).
Agnostic would be more along the lines of being uncertain whether there is a "higher power" (see: god) or not. Basically thinking that there may possibly be one, but aren't sure as there's no real proof.

In other words, you're a pussy and don't want to say there is no god because you're afraid you'll go to "hell" if there is one. :D (<<< That's a joke -_-).

I never said it actually WAS. I just said its more Agnostic than anything else, except Atheism but then that's not believing in god at all.

Syphongamer08
05-12-2010, 06:41 PM
Yes you are entitled to your own opinion but you shouldn't bash someone for having a faith.

Not one time did I bash anyone for having a religion. I just said it was stupid, pointless, and non beneficial. And then I defended my opinion when blackops was calling me ignorant

Phython74
05-12-2010, 06:48 PM
Not one time did I bash anyone for having a religion. I just said it was stupid, pointless, and non beneficial. And then I defended my opinion when blackops was calling me ignorant

Ok but do you have any reason to arrogant about your opinion i mean just keep it to yourself.

BLack_OpsKiLLa
05-12-2010, 07:03 PM
Lets note that you calling any religion "bullshit" is ignorant of you. I am not arguing about religion whether it is real or not.I am saying that making ignorant statements like that makes you ignorant

Syphongamer08
05-12-2010, 08:18 PM
Lets note that you calling any religion "bullshit" is ignorant of you. I am not arguing about religion whether it is real or not.I am saying that making ignorant statements like that makes you ignorant

No. Your wrong. Lets note that when I say religion, I mean EVERY religion. Not just one. So I'm not being ignorant because I'm not being byist to just one religion. Religion is bullshit end of story. It's an absolute waste of time. It's fucking fake BULLSHIT


Ok but do you have any reason to arrogant about your opinion i mean just keep it to yourself.

Yes I do have a reason. It's called being forced as a child to believe in bullshit.

WMD54
05-12-2010, 09:39 PM
I don't have a religion, and I have no problem with any religion unless they refuse to accept something that can be backed up with scientific facts because it goes against a book some dude wrote a couple thousand years ago. If believing in a god is what makes you happy, and you don't try to force it on me, more power to you.

WhoIsYou
05-12-2010, 10:02 PM
I don't have a religion, and I have no problem with any religion unless they refuse to accept something that can be backed up with scientific facts because it goes against a book some dude wrote a couple thousand years ago. If believing in a god is what makes you happy, and you don't try to force it on me, more power to you.

This.

_PRaLiNeS_
05-13-2010, 12:41 AM
in order to be a member of this forum you must be christian. out. now.

Syphongamer08
05-13-2010, 12:42 AM
in order to be a member of this forum you must be christian. out. now.

How about suckin me.

xWhite_Shadowx
05-13-2010, 12:43 AM
in order to be a member of this forum you must be christian. out. now.

I think there are more people on this forum that are of no religion / unspecified as opposed to people who actually follow a certain religion.

You know there's over 600 forms of Christianity? And that's only in the US.

Syphongamer08
05-13-2010, 12:46 AM
I think there are more people on this forum that are of no religion / unspecified as opposed to people who actually follow a certain religion.

You know there's over 600 forms of Christianity? And that's only in the US.

I think he is pushing for the site to be dead. Even more than it already is.

xWhite_Shadowx
05-13-2010, 12:47 AM
I think he is pushing for the site to be dead. Even more than it already is.

He's only kidding dude. Everyone that knows Pralines knows he jokes 98% of the time. He's one of the funniest dudes I know on the internet<3

Syphongamer08
05-13-2010, 01:12 AM
He's only kidding dude. Everyone that knows Pralines knows he jokes 98% of the time. He's one of the funniest dudes I know on the internet<3

=o I thought he was being for serial. Guess not. Saweee pralines

nx.dcr
05-13-2010, 05:50 AM
@syphongamer, not offended lol... just trying to save you some embarrassment... because you kind of said fuck all morals, so.... idk,, look up what morals means. not just in religion.

Syphongamer08
05-13-2010, 10:05 AM
@syphongamer, not offended lol... just trying to save you some embarrassment... because you kind of said fuck all morals, so.... idk,, look up what morals means. not just in religion.

No, I meant fuck the morals that most religions pertain to.

_PRaLiNeS_
05-13-2010, 03:51 PM
=o I thought he was being for serial. Guess not. Saweee pralines

=) 'sokay!